KUWAIT CITY – A military tribunal began hearings today for a U.S. Army sergeant charged with killing two superior officers in Iraq, with a witness testifying that the defendant told him he wanted to kill one of the victims. Eight witnesses were heard in a morning session, and several more were to be heard in the afternoon. The Army has set up a closed-circuit television feed at West Point in New York, but Allen and Esposito's widows are spending thousands to rent apartments and attend the trial in person. First? When do states certify their election results? Jacobs: Yes, it was relatively easy. I found out later on that the handheld generator, which is used to detonate the claymore, had been thrown in a nearby lake. Reading comprehension tip for the day: Investigators originally blamed a mortar attack for the deaths at Forward Operating Base Danger, in a hostile Sunni Arab region north of Baghdad where one of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein’s palaces was located. You are an idiot. In Vietnam, fragging was both a cause and a consequence of the breakdown in morale and discipline that plagued U.S. forces in the latter part of the war. This seems to be an isolated incident that was the result of some sort of discipline problem. Thousands of mink culled over COVID fears rise from mass grave, U.S. troops in Syria mark Thanksgiving with kebabs and soccer, Soccer legend Diego Maradona has died at 60, New report details Trump effort to seize private land for border wall. Thanks. Esposito, 30, of Suffern, New York, worked as an information technology manager in Manhattan and was Martinez's company commander. Phillip Esposito and 1st Lt. Louis Allen, both killed when a mine detonated outside their room in 2005. It was command detonated. I don’t understand your inability to admit the tiniest little error. MSNBC military analyst and retired Army Col. Jack Jacobs joined MSNBC's Amy Robach on Friday to discuss the charges and whether there is a danger of fragging becoming a growing trend. What was it about the evidence that made them change their minds. It Is Not A Proposal. Yes: Philip Esposito and Lt. Louis E. Allen in a bomb blast at Forward Operating Base Danger, near the central Iraqi city of Tikrit, the hometown of the deposed Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein, some 80 miles north of Baghdad. To watch the video of the interview, click on the link above. From Yahoo News, 20 minutes ago, U.S. Launches Major Operation in West Iraq . Killing a superior was known as "fragging" during the Vietnam War. But army prosecutors at Fort Bragg, where Martinez was arraigned in November 2006, later alleged that Martinez had a long and deadly dislike for Esposito, a West Point graduate who hailed from the same New York National Guard unit. 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Jack Jacobs: Well, people I talked to said it was a claymore mine that actually killed these two officers and it was set up on the windowsill of their quarters which is one of the palaces among the 58 or so palaces in this enormous compound in Tikrit which the 42nd Division is using for its headquarters. I am not responsible for you reading between the lines. The Espositos had a young daughter, and the Allens had four young sons. The Army reported hundreds of "fragging" incidents between 1969 and 1971, but only four soldiers have been court-martialed or charged with killing a fellow soldier since the Iraq war began in 2003. They were not very difficult people to deal with and so this was an isolated incident. Iraq, four letters. All quotes delayed a minimum of 15 minutes. It's got a pound or so of plastic explosives and embedded in that, a .33 caliber piece of buck shot and this was command detonated and killed both of those officers, commanders of Headquarters Companies; Esposito and the executive officer who was only in the country for four days. Be in the know. You should click this and help support progressives! Jack Jacobs: Well, people I talked to said it was a claymore mine that actually killed these two officers and it was set up on the windowsill of their quarters which is one of the palaces among the 58 or so palaces in this enormous compound in Tikrit which the 42nd Division is using for its headquarters. At an earlier hearing in Kuwait, a witness testified Martinez had said twice that he disliked Esposito and was going to "frag" him. January 1, 2007. It was command detonated. -- Georges Bernanos It's not like it was in Vietnam, towards the end of the war, where gross morale problems contributed to an epidemic in fragging. I did not write “Iraq War.” If I had meant “Iraq War” I would have written “Iraq War.” I specifically said “First fragging in Iraq” because I intended to say “First fragging in Iraq.” What do we know about Sgt. I found out later on that the handheld generator, which is used to detonate the claymore, had been thrown in a nearby lake. Hasan Akbar, a 34-year-old Muslim who was sentenced to death, told investigators he staged the attack because he was upset that American troops would kill fellow Muslims. Jacobs: I don't know much about him. The claymore mine ... is used principally in defensive positions. I mean obviously something like this will have an effect on people who knew these officers, both of whom were being described as absolutely swell people. Jacobs: Yes, it was relatively easy. "I can be in the courtroom and represent Lou," Barbara Allen said. "It's a troubling case from a military perspective because it goes to the concept of good order and discipline. Sgt. The claymore mine ... is used principally in defensive positions. I am not responsible for the “context” that you or anyone else reads into the actual words I put on the page. In the second instance, Martinez said “specifically I hate (Esposito) and I’m going to frag (him),” Prober testified. This is why the military is seeking the death penalty.". In an instant, I became a single parent and had to balance raising our daughter on my own while seeking justice for Phillip's murder.". He was a staff sergeant in Headquarters Company and he was a supply specialist which would indicate that he is the supply sergeant so he worked directly with the commander and the deputy commander, executive officers, both of whom were killed. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), U.S. Launches Major Operation in West Iraq. Prosecutors also charged Martinez with illegally giving government printers and copiers to an Iraqi, and illegally possessing a firearm, alcohol and explosives. Was it an easy thing to spot? America’s war in Afghanistan has now “officially” exceeded the Vietnam War in duration, and the war in Iraq is approaching that milestone as well. They could tell that it was a claymore mine and that it was command detonated. The lake was drained and the detonator found. Martinez was the first U.S. soldier charged with killing, or “fragging,” his commanding officers in the Iraq war. The tribunal, held at Camp Arifjan in Kuwait, will determine whether to send the case to a court martial. Apparently, what I understand the perpetrator tried to cover it up by making it look like a mortar attack by throwing a few hand grenades after he had detonated this claymore mine. During today’s session, one witness, Capt. Update 3: To read an excerpt of their conversation, continue to the text below. with and can be seen weekdays from 9 a.m.-noon. Jacobs: I don't know much about him. October 22, 2008 / 5:34 AM But when other people came to the quarters where the claymore had been detonated and officers killed, they could tell immediately by the blast pattern, by the type of shrapnel that was embedded all over the place. First case of fragging in Iraq. Grow up, Gary. For the first time since Vietnam, the term "fragging" is in the news with military officials currently investigating whether revenge was a factor in the murder of two National Guard officers in Iraq